Uncut Magazine
February, 2007
It's now 35 years ago since they first crashed straight out of Boston loaded with bad-ass Stones swagger, back-alley sleaziness, and an attitude so rank with arrogant self-belief you could smell it across town, whichever way the wind was blowing. Their mission: to kick the world repeatedly in the balls, while simultaneously dragging rock'n'roll back to the depraved swamp where it rightly belonged.
Band leaders Steven Tyler and Joe Perry shared an affection for chemical excess that earned them the sobriquet, The Toxic Twins. The Grateful Dead's Jerry Garcia, no-babe-in-arms when it came to illegal substances, described them as "by far the druggiest bunch of guys I've met in my life".
Band meltdown and long spells in rehab inevitably followed. Then, in the mid-80's, they fashioned one of the most unlikely comebacks in rock history, clawing back sales and credibility by teaming up with Run-DMC for a version of "Walk this Way".
Now celebrating a full 20 years clean and straight, Tyler and Perry declare themselves "disgustingly healthy and ready to roll" as they prepare to field questions from Uncut readers. The Toxic Twins may be less toxic these days, but their ability to talk up a tornado thankfully remains undiminished.
Does Aerosmith mean as much to you now as it did 30 years ago? -Luke Pritchard, The Kooks Tyler: It's different and yet, it's not so very different. We started out wanting to be like Janis Joplin, drinking Jack Daniels onstage and singing your ass off. Then you become successful and it's a fucking miracle, but your ego freaks out and everything becomes secondary to the band for the simple reason that you wouldn't have anything if it wasn't for the band. Now we have families and, of course, the families come first. But, if a family member passes away and we have a show to do, then the show must go on and we deal with the rest later.
What was it like recording with George Martin on the Sgt. Pepper movie soundtrack? Did the great man understand where Aerosmith were coming from at the time? -Shane Jorge, by email Perry: First of all, it was an honour to work with a guy that had produced all those great Beatles albums. There was no introductory meeting. When he walked into the studio to work with us on "Come Together", that's the first time we met him. We felt kinda overwhelmed, and I guess we were hoping he'd come in and sprinkle some of that George Martin magic dust around the room. But all he did was listen to what we'd already laid down and said, "Sounds good what you're doing, boys! Keep it up!" Looking back, it might've been good to have had a little more input from him. Then again, maybe he appreciated that our version of the song was close enough to the original to be a homage, but it also had the Aerosmith thing going for it. Basically, we played it like he wanted to hear it.
You were big fans of the New York Dolls in your early days. In a just world, would the Dolls have been as mega-successful as Aerosmith became? -Jody Egan, Colchester Perry: I don't think it has anything to do with a just world. It has to do with what it takes to keep a band together in the face of all the adversity. If anything, the Dolls had more advantages than Aerosmith in that they were darlings of the New York press and all that. Most bands struggled to get one tenth of the recognition they got, and they just pissed it all away. They were the first band that I loved that I watched self-destruct. What I learnt from that is that it's not enough to get your foot in the door. You need to keep your foot there, get the rest of you in there and keep it all there.
Should we ever become as filthy-rich as Aerosmith, what's the best investment? A plane, a house, or a club? -Lovefoxxx, CSS Tyler: The most ridiculous purchase I ever made was my own plane. Cost me nearly a million dollars. The guy that flew me around also sold my coke. Then there was this one time when we flew into a thunderstorm and this plane looked for awhile like it wasn't going to make it. I sold it shortly after for a good profit. Forget clubs, man. Planes and property, you'll always make a profit.
What's the best Aerosmith album and the worst? -Sandy Cross, by email Tyler: The best would have to be Toys in the Attic (1975) or Rocks (1976). Then again Pump (1989) is pretty amazing. There's a few Aerosmith albums I choose not to remember anymore. But the worst would have to be one of those many Greatest Hits that the record company put out in the 90's without our permission when we should have had our eyes on the ball but were, ahem, otherwise occupied.
Perry: For me, the worst ever was Done with Mirrors (1985). At that time, we were trying to make an album that was a bit like the old Aerosmith and a bit like where we wanted to be heading. Those songs weren't completely lacking in inspiration, but little of it added up. That has to be our weakest record. Our strongest has to be Get a Grip (1993). It feels like a point of culmination that record, where we realised our potential and brought it right up front. I'm not surprised that songs like "Eat the Rich" and "Livin' on the Edge" have survived the test of time.
Question for Joe, Keith Richards talks about coming up with the riff for "Satisfaction" in his sleep. Have any of your great riffs come to you in the same way? -Paul Solomon, Dundee Perry: The riffs come to me in all ways. They've come to me in my sleep and when I've been half asleep. When I've been straight or on the knot. The best ones come to me when I'm not even trying. I can't believe some of the things that've come out the ends of my fingers. I just hear something in the air and let it do it's thing. It's like I'm a conduit for a force that I can't pretend to understand. Like I'll be sitting at a soundcheck, strumming a guitar, thinking how good it would be to come up with something that had that great R'n'B sound like a tune by The Meters. There comes the riff to "Walk this Way", fully formed. What can I say? It's a completely magical thing.
Where does good old-fashioned rock'n'roll debauchery end and basic bad behavior begin? -Nancy Simon, Stevenage Perry: The line is crossed when it ends up showing itself onstage. You have a contract with your fans to play a great show when they come to see you live. When fucking up gets in the way of that, it's wrong. In the late 70's, there were times when we'd actually pass out on stage. That's got nothing to do with rock'n'roll rebellion. That's to do with selling the fans short. We know better now.
Have you ever been embarassed or dissappointed at meeting your idols? -Kris Fletch, Cambridge Tyler: I don't know about dissappointed or embarassed, but my first meeting with Paul McCartney was certainly memorable. I was in a backstage urinal at the Hammersmith Odeon. McCartney walked in, started doing what people do in urinals. For the record, I did not check his size out. But I'm taking this piss that seems to be taking forever, and Paul says, "Hey! Steven Tyler. I fucking love your music." And he gives me the famous thumbs up with his one free hand. Well, that snapped my stream, right there. It turned out to be quite a night, that one. I recall fat ones being smoked and a lot of wrestling around on the floor.
It used to be sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll all the way for Aerosmith. What's your holy trinity these days? -Karl Richards, by email
Perry: Music is still in there. Family has taken the place of drugs. I'm still big on sex. The only difference nowadays is that I have sex with the same person every night as opposed to a different woman every night. The amazing thing to me is that the sex is so much better the way I'm having it now.
Tyler: The band motto used to be, "if anything's worth doing, it's worth overdoing". For me, we still operate in that way. Only, we no longer have the distraction of drugs. If you're strung out on hard drugs, it's fine if you're stuck in the desert with a yeti, looking at the sunset and getting your fix of epiphanies. But, if you have any remote interest in being creative, dope's gonna steal that from you. It's gonna steal all the gifts that God gave you. These days, Aerosmith wakes up sober, and that means the band can get so much more done.
There's a famous story about Aerosmith playing a gig in the 70's when you came on stage having decided to reverse your set list. You played your encore song first and , then, assuming you'd done the entire show, walked off stage. Any truth to it? -Nicky Wire, Manic Street Preachers Perry: It's a great story and it never goes away. Unfortunately it's not true. We've done some dumb things onstage but nothing as dumb as that. Having said that, there was one occasion where we played the same song twice because we'd forgotten we'd already played it. That might seem funny to some people, but we're not proud of it. It was that kind of sh*t that stopped people coming to our shows.
Steven, you've got an amazing songwriting partner in Joe Perry. But are there any other guitarists that you would chop your arm off to work with? -Coral Barkwsorth, by email Tyler: Two words. Jimmy Page. We jammed together in 1995, but I'd love to do something more substantial with him. I dream about stuff like that. You know what though? I doubt that working with any other guitarist could top working with Joe Perry. I'm in awe when I'm on stage with him and he's giving it all this, "I'm an Italian stallion and check this out!" After all these years, he's still driven like a fucking snowstorm.
Based on your extensive research, what's the best drug known to man? -Tony the Pony, by email Tyler: There's two. Take the right music and the right woman and you have yourself the most powerful concoction ever devised by man or beast. Here's the recipe, Tony. Listen to Led Zep's "Whole Lotta Love" with your best girl by your side, preferably when you're both watching a good sunset and smoking a bone. You'll be kissing her deep by the end of the first verse. You'll be going down on her by the end of the first chorus. If you've never 69'd you will do so by the middle. If you've never had anal sex you will do so by the time that Jimmy Page's guitar gets into its full stride. That's the truth. And there's nothing better in this life.
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